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During a hot hearing in the Senate on Tuesday, Democrats at the Senate Intelligence Committee participated in the country’s senior security officials about their participation in the chat group chat and discussing war plans in a way with a journalist.

Among the members of the Senate who reprimanded members of the Trump administration, Senator Mark Warner, a Democrat from Virginia, who criticized the incident as “confusing the mind.”

Warner told Warner: “I got this highest level of individuals who communicate with this non -photographed channel and simple slope,” Warner told Warner. All the things that have been consideredAlyssa Chang.

The session, formerly scheduled, came a day after Jeffrey Goldberg, his editor -in -chief Atlantic OceanHe revealed that he was wrongly In addition to a group chat The country’s senior security officials discussed highly sensitive plans to bomb the Houthi targets in Yemen.

Goldberg NPR told that it was not examined before adding it to the chat.

He said in an interview with “It was a chilling thing that I was inadvertently discovered a tremendous security violation in the national security system in the United States,” he said in an interview with an interview. All the things that have been considered.

Speaking to reporters after the Senate session, President Trump reduced the violation of the massive security. “There was no secret information, as I understood it,” Trump said, adding that many people in the government are using a sign.

NPR recently learned that a Pentagon consultant had emerged last week from the use of the application, even for non -classified information, saying, “The security vulnerability has been determined.”

During the Senate session, Warner described the actions of senior intelligence officials in the country as “dirty, neglected behavior.”

“If this is the case of a military officer or an intelligence officer and they have this type of behavior, they will be separated,” he said.

This interview was gently released for length and clarity.

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Ailsa chang: You and your democratic colleagues, as expected, had sharp words today for the Director of National Intelligence, Toulsi Gabbard, and John Ratcliffe, head of the CIA. It is worth noting that none of your Republican colleagues seemed determined to focus at all on the entire signal. Do you feel whether any of these Republicans share your concerns?

Mark Warner: I think they are doing. And I think he was unusually telling us that none of my Republican colleagues came to the defense of these people. If no one hears, let’s review very quickly, there is a sign – a good encoded application, but it is not a classified means of transferring information. In fact, we have evidence that Russia and China are trying to storm signal -based systems. Second, I got this highest level of individuals who communicate with this non -classified channel and the simple slope that developed the journalist and no one disturbs the verification of who this other person is at the test.

Zhang: But I ask you, if none of your Republican colleagues are ready to speak publicly about what happened without their support in requesting accountability, will we see any accountability?

Warner: Well, I think we will do. Listen, I think we will see this, the full text. I think the journalist is considering launching it. Gabbard said today, there is nothing classified. [If] There is nothing classified, there is no reason for not releasing it.

Zhang: Well, I said ok, “Share it with the Committee.”

Warner: She refused to confess …

Zhang: in the beginning.

Warner: … whether it is using its phone or a government phone, but Ailsa is declining for a moment – even with what we know now, we have a vice president who differs with others about an imminent bombing – with this information, if it has come out early, I can tell you that Russia and Iran, Iran, this is what their spots will love. This same information alone in any traditional method will be considered classified and is not supposed to be revealed.

Zhang: Let’s talk about the classified nature or the non -classified nature of information, because you are right, Gabbard said that there are no secret materials common to that chat. But if Jeffrey Goldberg’s reports are correct, this interconnection index included the name of the CIA officer, information about targets, the weapons that the United States will publish, and the sequence of attacks. Are there any circumstances that can be classified as none of this information are classified? you tell me.

Warner: There was no perceived circumstance. Let me acknowledge that we are rating in this country, but they should not change the rules. The hypocrisy here for the Director of National Intelligence, who was literally previously 11 days ago, for example, we will go to pursue every sacrifice and any person who makes you follow, and we will follow up to the full law of the law, then be more than that, and deal with this information because if it has come out of the Americans, they died in order to be able to re -distinguish them. This is a type of security 101. If this is a military officer or an officer in the case of the CIA, they will be separated by this type of behavior, without question.

Zhang: If it turns out that Jeffrey Goldberg and Atlantic Ocean He decided not to issue additional content of what Goldberg saw in the group chat. I asked Gabbard today. I said, well, if there is nothing classified, share the contents with the committee. How can you go ahead at that point if you want to see those contents that seem to be not designed according to it?

Warner: One of the things you liked in [Senate] The Intelligence Committee, I was president under recent management and the vice president now, is that we have almost a tendency. I fully think that if the administration is trying to reach this, we will have the support of the two parties for us as the Intelligence Committee, and the oversight committee that is supposed to make sure that things are appropriate. We will look at this in the text.

Zhang: Well, let me ask you this, if it is open …

Warner: Can I just add something else here? If this is the first time. It will remain bad, but it will not be as shocking as it is now. This is the same administration that issued two weeks in the names of 200 new agencies from CIA. Many of those who cannot be published, and this is the administration that has released Elon Musk and the so -called Payj Boys is almost secret information on a daily basis.

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