Newly released transcripts of Ghislaine Maxwell’s July interview with the Justice Department depict a surprisingly cold relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, despite various reports that the flamboyant socialites were each other’s closest friends.
In transcripts made available Friday under the Epstein Files Transparency Act, Maxwell noted that Trump was “always very friendly and very nice” to her, and that she admired his “extraordinary accomplishment of becoming president.”
“This is the sum and substance of my entire relationship with him,” Maxwell told Deputy District Attorney Todd Blanche. text.
It was Trump Photographed With Maxwell several times during his long friendship with Epstein: She and Trump partied together, attended fashion shows together, and went out “on the town” together, according to a 1997 postcard.
When asked about Trump’s connection to the notorious child sex trafficker, Maxwell was equally circumspect.
“I don’t know how they met, I don’t know how they became friends,” Maxwell said. “I’ve definitely seen them together and I remember the few times I’ve seen them together, but they were friendly. I mean, they seemed friendly.”
She went on to claim that she only saw the socialites together in public, and never in private — although flight records indicate that Trump flew on Epstein’s private plane several times and again. Email From Epstein’s estate in which he said Trump was “with him” at Thanksgiving in 2017.
“I think they were as friendly as people get in social settings. I don’t think they were close friends or I certainly didn’t see the president in any of them — I don’t remember seeing him at his house for example,” Maxwell said.
“I actually never saw the president in any way Massage preparationshe continued, casually referring to the grooming technique she and Epstein would use to get past non-consensual sexual intercourse. The larger Epstein files released on Friday included a memo detailing about 254 masseuses in Epstein’s communications files.
“I never saw the President anywhere inappropriate in any way. The President was never inappropriate with anyone. In the times I was with him, he was an all-around gentleman.”
That would be very surprising, considering that Epstein and Trump enjoyed inappropriate sex in public together, and were reportedly bonding over “Trophy huntingFurthermore, Trump has openly bragged about his sexual entitlement, claiming that he likes to “grab” women “by the pussy.”
Maxwell was sentenced in 2022 to 20 years in prison for her active role in Epstein’s crimes, identifying and grooming vulnerable young women while normalizing their abuse at the hands of her millionaire boyfriend. Maxwell’s lawyers have been pressing the White House for a pardon for several months, and the former British social activist He pointed out In a lawsuit earlier this month she will ask the court to release her from her captivity.
It remains unclear whether the Justice Department interview was intended to be a quid pro quo, but shortly after the information was exchanged, Maxwell — one of the worst sex offenders of the century — received a very easy transfer, moving her from a prison in Florida to a low-security prison camp in Texas, which lawmakers had requested described As “unsuitable for sex offenders”.
Of course, in the same testimony, the famous manipulator also vehemently denied that “anything inappropriate” happened while she was with Epstein.
“I’ve never seen a tear,” Maxwell told Blanche.
Trump has not been charged with any crimes related to Epstein or Maxwell.